Thursday, August 14, 2008
"I probably would have gone around Mount Vesuvius!"
THE HUNTING PARTY
Christian sees Jack getting a little too close to the woman whose father Jack is going to perform surgery on. He tells Jack not to cross the line. Jack retorts that Christian should know something about crossing the line. To which Christian responds that it is okay for some people but not for him (meaning Jack). What an odd relationship these two had. For all the continuity cops out there and the conspiracy theorists the date on the x-rays Jack looks at is just a mistake. They are dated November 2005 which some believed would make all of this flashback actually happening in the future. TPTB have said it was just an oversight on their part.
Locke asks Sawyer why he uses the name Sawyer almost as if he knows some of the background as to why Sawyer chose that name. He even asks “Who did you get the nickname from?” Just seems like a suspicious way of asking the question to me.
After the woman’s father dies, Jack ends up crossing the line anyway.
Tom AKA Mr. Friendly enters the picture and tells the group that Walt is a very special boy. In his “Do not cross the line” speech he quotes the Hanso line. Tom says, in reference to the island "Tell me, you go over a man's house for the first time, do you take off your shoes?". Locke did take his shoes off when he first got into the Hatch, but Jack did not.
He used the “light ’em up trick” which is a classic “Others” move. He then tells Alex to bring her out. “Her” being Kate who followed Jack/Locke/Sawyer after Jack told her not to. We also have our Danielle connection with the name “Alex” being the name of her child. Some people were fooled into thinking Alex was a male seeing as it is a man that brings out Kate but he certainly was more than sixteen which is how old Danielle claimed her child to be. Pickett was the person we see bring out Kate. Of course we don’t know that until later.
It has been noted that the large black rock that is seen in this area seems to be out of place. As in why is it out there in the middle of the jungle? It is possibly there to mark the area where “the line” is. Or it could be a marker for where one of the Cerberus Vents is.
Jack ends up getting all pissy with Kate for not following his orders.
Sarah tells Jack that she thought she might be pregnant but not to worry that she took a pregnancy test and it was negative. I wonder if our good doctor was shooting blanks just like Jin was. Would it have been Jack’s anyway since right after we find out Sarah is leaving Jack and she says she has been seeing someone.
It didn’t seem that Jack was too keen on the idea of having a child anyway. My only other thought was why in the hell did he tell Sarah about the one measly kiss he shared with the grieving daughter? There are certain man rules he needs to brush up on.
As Sarah leaves, she tells Jack he will always need something to fix. Jack oddly enough just lets her leave without much of a fight.
FIRE + WATER
“The Baptism of Christ”, the painting hanging on the wall in Charlie's dream is by Andrea del Verrocchio. It depicts the baptism of Jesus by John the Baptist. Charlie's vision on the beach is based on this painting. Although Jesus and John do not appear in Charlie's vision, the angels appear (Claire and his mother), as does the dove (seagull?) that flew toward Charlie. In the painting, the dove is released from God's hands.
There’s that word “special” being thrown around again. This time it is Charlie’s mother who calls Charlie “special”.
Charlie's mother gives him a piano and tells him, "Someday you're going to get us out of here," foreshadowing Charlie's actions at the end of Season 3 in "Through the Looking Glass", when Charlie plays "Good Vibrations" on a keyboard, in order to get the survivors off the island. I have a theory that involves Charlie being the actual person who programs the keyboard password in a time loop crossover type thingy deal there. Yeah, I get a lot of flack for some of these.
The scene where Charlie's father chops off the doll's head (as a butcher in his flashback) was an homage to this Beatle's album, "Yesterday and Today".
Charlie stews a bit while Claire and Locke begin to bond and she allows Aaron to get a little closer to John as well.
In Charlie’s dream, notice you can see Yemi’s plane crashing behind Claire and Charlie’s mother in the dream. After we hear the plane crash, a seagull (dove?) comes flying towards Charlie.
In a way that only Sawyer can, he tries to help Hurley move forward with his school boy crush on Libby.
So in all the time Boone and Locke were digging up the hatch neither of them saw the door that must be somewhere nearby?
Charlie’s reaction to Locke’s accusation of him using heroin again seemed pretty legit to me.
Charlie is nothing if not loyal and faithful, albeit occasionally misdirected with it both on the island and in his flashbacks.
Libby comments that the washer and dryer seem to be newer than everything else inside the hatch. Why exactly was that just brushed over? That seems pretty big to me. Definitely more hatch story is yet to be told. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it in all it’s 1978 glory come season 5. When Hurley says that he recognizes Libby from somewhere she tries to convince him that it was from them seeing each other on the plane.
And then takes her shirt off to seal the distraction.
Eko marks all the trees that he likes(?) and asks Charlie about his dreams. Eko tells Charlie that perhaps the dreams are trying to tell Charlie that the baby needs to be baptized.
A stuffed polar bear can be seen in the giant crib in which Drive Shaft shoots their Butties diapers commercial. In Charlie's place, a Drive Shaft "Drive Across America Tour" poster hangs for their concert on 8/15/2000.
Locke catches Charlie at his stash. I, for one, do think Charlie was about to use again. Locke gives Charlie some tough love but I give Locke some credit for not telling Claire about the statues.
Charlie drags out the hooded sweatshirt as he turns firebug and baby napper.
What family did Charlie mean when he yelled to Liam “What about my family?”?
Eko explains the plane crashing and the seagull (dove) and the whole baptizing thing. To him, them crashing on the island was a way of cleaning them of their sins and they all could have a new life on the island if they wanted it. Eko's description of the baptism of Jesus is slightly incorrect. The Catholic Church teaches that Jesus was born without sin. Although he was telling the story from John the Baptist's perspective, it still goes against the views of Catholicism. Perhaps these errors were added to the script deliberately, since Eko has had no formal religious training (as far as we know), and is therefore not fully versed in the traditions of the church.
Ana Lucia asks Jack, in regards to Kate, if he is "hitting that". Have I ever told you how much I just love classy dames?
Locke puts the statues inside the armory and changes the combination. I wonder if he really was keeping them to use for medicine later or a way to bribe Charlie, if he needed to.
In classic Anakin Skywalker fashion, Charlie puts the hood of the sweatshirt back over his head.
The title is a reference to this classic dystopian novel Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury. In the book, it states: “His mind would well over at last and he would not be Montag any more, this the old man told him, assured him, promised him. He would be Montag plus-Faber, fire plus water, and then, one day, after everything had mixed and simmered and worked away in silence, there would be neither fire nor water, but wine. Out of two separate and opposite things, a third.”
Also, one of the chapters in the Hobbit is entitled Fire and Water.
Another thought towards foreshadowing puts the seagull in the dream as a way of showing that Claire will later use a seagull in an attempt to send a message off of the island in hopes of getting them saved.
And my my my wasn't this a long ass post!
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